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> <channel><title>Comments on: Celine Dion&#8217;s Christmas Confession</title> <atom:link href="http://katadrew.com/2008/celine-dions-christmas-confession/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://katadrew.com/2008/celine-dions-christmas-confession/</link> <description>die klenar kesel kuchdal iwar</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:16:59 -0500</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Jen</title><link>http://katadrew.com/2008/celine-dions-christmas-confession/#comment-1158</link> <dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:16:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://katadrew.com/?p=587#comment-1158</guid> <description>True, after a &quot;confession&quot; (flippant or not) is made, a process of sanctification - continually being made holy as He is holy (references in Leviticus and Romans) should begin, so that when we are faced with battle our helmet is strong.In response to Islam versus Christianity, where the fundamental difference is a matter of heart condition, why then do we, who are aware of the process of sanctification and the necessity of a genuine conversion to Christ, provide people with steps to Christianity?  Tracks point out a variety of ways to receive Christ as your personal Savior, complete with commitment page and location to sign your name if you&#039;re truly sincere.  Although I&#039;m aware this is off topic of Islam vs. Christianity, here is where I believe the fundamental flaw of Christianity lies.  After returning from mission trips and completing outreach events, aren&#039;t we proud to tally up the number of people who have accepted Jesus? Don&#039;t we love to say &quot;20 people came to the older and gave their lives to Christ&quot;?  But where are those people? Have we brought them into the sheepfold or just given them a few steps to accept that there indeed is a sheepfold, without even necessarily telling them how to get to it. I am certainly not attacking or judging you, but change starts with talk, so that&#039;s what I&#039;m doing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, after a &#8220;confession&#8221; (flippant or not) is made, a process of sanctification &#8211; continually being made holy as He is holy (references in Leviticus and Romans) should begin, so that when we are faced with battle our helmet is strong.</p><p>In response to Islam versus Christianity, where the fundamental difference is a matter of heart condition, why then do we, who are aware of the process of sanctification and the necessity of a genuine conversion to Christ, provide people with steps to Christianity?  Tracks point out a variety of ways to receive Christ as your personal Savior, complete with commitment page and location to sign your name if you&#8217;re truly sincere.  Although I&#8217;m aware this is off topic of Islam vs. Christianity, here is where I believe the fundamental flaw of Christianity lies.  After returning from mission trips and completing outreach events, aren&#8217;t we proud to tally up the number of people who have accepted Jesus? Don&#8217;t we love to say &#8220;20 people came to the older and gave their lives to Christ&#8221;?  But where are those people? Have we brought them into the sheepfold or just given them a few steps to accept that there indeed is a sheepfold, without even necessarily telling them how to get to it. I am certainly not attacking or judging you, but change starts with talk, so that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing.</p><link
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isPermaLink="false">http://katadrew.com/?p=587#comment-1156</guid> <description>Jen, you make good points concerning salvation and our proneness to wander. Don&#039;t worry about being random; salvation is of utmost importance!To avoid any possible misunderstanding I want to quickly clear up what I meant by &quot;flippant confession.&quot; I just now looked up &quot;flippant&quot; to verify its definition. Flippancy is &quot;frivolously disrespectful, shallow, or lacking in seriousness.&quot; A flippant confession would then be one that does not have a proper understanding of the holiness of God and the severity of sin as an affront to him (&quot;frivolously disrepectful&quot;), lacks internal compunction over sins committed and being a slave to sin (&quot;shallow&quot;), and is brought to mind not by an awareness of personal sin and the coming judgment but by the lyrics of a popular song (&quot;lacking in seriousness&quot;).  On the other hand, the &quot;flippant confession&quot; you seem to be pointing to is the ongoing confession of sin in the believer&#039;s life, matter how comparatively small the sin may seem. If this type of confession is the helmet salvation, it&#039;s repeated presence in the believer&#039;s life demonstrates our salvation which is both secure in Christ and in progress, that is sanctification.As I&#039;m sure you would agree, we musn&#039;t allow a demonic disconnect of which you and James speak to exist for the one who desires to saved: turning from sin must result in turning to Christ and vice versa.What I desired to accomplish with this blog entry was to show what I perceive to be a fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity. Unlike Islam, Christianity possesses no magic formulae whereby irrespective of heart condition the one speaking is converted. Rather genuine conversion to Christ is a very personal, sentient, and spiritual work of God whereby one enters into communion with the triune God. The Scriptures put this experience in many different metaphors, but it consists of two main components like those mentioned by Chambers: (1) the historical accomplishment of salvation by Jesus&#039; substitutionary death those many years ago and (2) our response to this gospel in time in these days in which you and I live. While these two aspects are distinguishable they must always be held together and not put at odds.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen, you make good points concerning salvation and our proneness to wander. Don&#8217;t worry about being random; salvation is of utmost importance!</p><p>To avoid any possible misunderstanding I want to quickly clear up what I meant by &#8220;flippant confession.&#8221; I just now looked up &#8220;flippant&#8221; to verify its definition. Flippancy is &#8220;frivolously disrespectful, shallow, or lacking in seriousness.&#8221; A flippant confession would then be one that does not have a proper understanding of the holiness of God and the severity of sin as an affront to him (&#8220;frivolously disrepectful&#8221;), lacks internal compunction over sins committed and being a slave to sin (&#8220;shallow&#8221;), and is brought to mind not by an awareness of personal sin and the coming judgment but by the lyrics of a popular song (&#8220;lacking in seriousness&#8221;).  On the other hand, the &#8220;flippant confession&#8221; you seem to be pointing to is the ongoing confession of sin in the believer&#8217;s life, matter how comparatively small the sin may seem. If this type of confession is the helmet salvation, it&#8217;s repeated presence in the believer&#8217;s life demonstrates our salvation which is both secure in Christ and in progress, that is sanctification.</p><p>As I&#8217;m sure you would agree, we musn&#8217;t allow a demonic disconnect of which you and James speak to exist for the one who desires to saved: turning from sin must result in turning to Christ and vice versa.</p><p>What I desired to accomplish with this blog entry was to show what I perceive to be a fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity. Unlike Islam, Christianity possesses no magic formulae whereby irrespective of heart condition the one speaking is converted. Rather genuine conversion to Christ is a very personal, sentient, and spiritual work of God whereby one enters into communion with the triune God. The Scriptures put this experience in many different metaphors, but it consists of two main components like those mentioned by Chambers: (1) the historical accomplishment of salvation by Jesus&#8217; substitutionary death those many years ago and (2) our response to this gospel in time in these days in which you and I live. While these two aspects are distinguishable they must always be held together and not put at odds.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jen</title><link>http://katadrew.com/2008/celine-dions-christmas-confession/#comment-1151</link> <dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:35:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://katadrew.com/?p=587#comment-1151</guid> <description>Oswald Chambers writes, &quot;A man cannot redeem himselfâ€” redemption is the work of God, and is absolutely finished and complete. And its application to individual people is a matter of their own individual action or response to it. A distinction must always be made between the revealed truth of redemption and the actual conscious experience of salvation in a personâ€™s life.&quot; In the seemingly &quot;flippant&quot; confessions of our sins, it seems that God provides us the &quot;helmet of salvation&quot;.  However, it is our choice whether or not we will put on this essential armor or simply choose to walk away, leaving it to sit in the corner and collect dust. Also, I wonder if there is a disconnect between confessing that Christ is Lord and asking forgiveness of our sins. Even the demons acknowledge, or confess, God&#039;s existence, but asking for His forgiveness and mercy, therefore bringing themselves into accountability under Christ, is quite a different story.   The very familiar John 3:16 says &quot;For God so loved the world that He sent His only Son, that whoever believes in Him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life&quot;.  One time, I attempted to walk away from God, wanting to live in the security of His salvation without having the responsibility of living a sacrificial life that I believe He calls us to. During that time, I asked if it was possible to live under the salvation of God - given by believing in Jesus as John 3:16 states - without asking for Him to forgive my sins.   Although, thanks be to God He captured my heart and loyalty so that I now run after Him with all my heart, strength, and mind, there are many &quot;Christians&quot; who I believe, live comfortably under the premise of John 3:16, but do not &quot;go all the way&quot; so to speak.  Isn&#039;t this why the world has such a distorted view of Christianity? Certainly, if it can bring a heaviness to my spirit, it must break the heart of God.  Hmmm.. I feel this has been a bit random and off the top of my head, but I&#039;d love your thoughts on it. Admittedly my knowledge and understanding of the scriptures is immature, but my heart and mind are willing and eager to learn more.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oswald Chambers writes, &#8220;A man cannot redeem himselfâ€” redemption is the work of God, and is absolutely finished and complete. And its application to individual people is a matter of their own individual action or response to it. A distinction must always be made between the revealed truth of redemption and the actual conscious experience of salvation in a personâ€™s life.&#8221; In the seemingly &#8220;flippant&#8221; confessions of our sins, it seems that God provides us the &#8220;helmet of salvation&#8221;.  However, it is our choice whether or not we will put on this essential armor or simply choose to walk away, leaving it to sit in the corner and collect dust. Also, I wonder if there is a disconnect between confessing that Christ is Lord and asking forgiveness of our sins. Even the demons acknowledge, or confess, God&#8217;s existence, but asking for His forgiveness and mercy, therefore bringing themselves into accountability under Christ, is quite a different story.   The very familiar John 3:16 says &#8220;For God so loved the world that He sent His only Son, that whoever believes in Him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life&#8221;.  One time, I attempted to walk away from God, wanting to live in the security of His salvation without having the responsibility of living a sacrificial life that I believe He calls us to. During that time, I asked if it was possible to live under the salvation of God &#8211; given by believing in Jesus as John 3:16 states &#8211; without asking for Him to forgive my sins.   Although, thanks be to God He captured my heart and loyalty so that I now run after Him with all my heart, strength, and mind, there are many &#8220;Christians&#8221; who I believe, live comfortably under the premise of John 3:16, but do not &#8220;go all the way&#8221; so to speak.  Isn&#8217;t this why the world has such a distorted view of Christianity? Certainly, if it can bring a heaviness to my spirit, it must break the heart of God.  Hmmm.. I feel this has been a bit random and off the top of my head, but I&#8217;d love your thoughts on it. Admittedly my knowledge and understanding of the scriptures is immature, but my heart and mind are willing and eager to learn more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: admaust (Drew Maust)</title><link>http://katadrew.com/2008/celine-dions-christmas-confession/#comment-1525</link> <dc:creator>admaust (Drew Maust)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:12:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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